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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy and Sarah had originally intended to host a part 2 discussion on sugar this week, but in light of recent discussions around Green Pastures fermented cod liver oil (FCLO), the hosts are going to shift gears this week to discuss rancid fats and what may or may not be happening with Green Pastures
    • A lot of the real food community has recommended Green Pastures for a very long time - they make and manufacture a number of products and have for a long time
    • You can find lots of information on Green Pastures throughout the community, as they have been a highly recommended supplement for a number of years
    • When Sarah first recommended Green Pastures she took a look at how it was extracted and how the integrity of the product was kept intact to keep it as a whole food
    • What sparked this whole discussion was a study that Dr. Kaayla Daniels released based on data that a third-party had completed on her behalf, and how the quality and claims were different than what is provided by the brand
    • This study has caused a big debate in the real food community
      • Example of the discussions around the study can be found here
    • Stacy is interested to learn more about the sides and the full-fact checking picture, because what concerns her about how this debate has unfolded is how the president of the Weston A Price Foundation made a decision to not investigate the concerns that were raised by the board of the Foundation on Green Pasture's products
    • Green Pastures has offered members of the Weston A Price Foundation the chance to come and tour their farm and facilities to offer more insight into their product claims
    • Stacy wants to point out that the decision to not take Green Pastures up on this offer to fully investigate the truth before making and sharing decisions with the community, shows a lack of thorough analysis when making brand/product decisions (we have seen this kind of decision making before when the paleo community was attacked, see here)
    • What Stacy and Sarah hope to accomplish in this episode is to remove the subjective feelings and to take a look at the facts and science behind the findings, and to take a deeper look at rancidity of fats so that listeners can make fully informed decisions
    • First Sarah wants to discuss Dr. Daniels report and the debate around her conclusions, as she is seeing some misunderstandings on the science and wants to shed some more light on those misunderstandings (20:04)
      • Sarah finds it interesting that FCLO is considered a traditional food, yet Green Pastures is the only company that makes and sells it and it has only been on the market since 2007, when the Western A Price Foundation (WAPF) first highly endorsed it
      • The first criticism by Dr. Daniels is how can you ferment oil, you need to have something for a bacteria to eat - taking a deeper look at how Green Pastures explains their fermentation process on their site
      • How difficult it is to draw conclusions is based on to what extent the product manufacturing information is shared by Green Pastures
      • Concerns were first raised around Green Pastures product integrity by Dr. Ron Schmidt, see more here
      • Others began to share their experiences and say that they too were experiencing negative effects from FCLO consumption
      • Nourished and Nurtured shared a similar personal story as well, and how they too had experienced negative results from consistent FCLO consumption
      • In March 2014 a Green Pastures competitor, Corganic released extra virgin cod liver oil and Dan Corrigan again questioned how you can ferment cod liver oil, which sparked the WAPF President (Sally Fallon) to threaten to ban Corrigan from WAPF events
      • Dr. Daniels first began looking into the science a bit more in December 2014, in response to these debates that were happening all over the place on FCLO
      • The way Sally (the WAPF president) then responded to these debates and Dr. Daniels concerns shows a lack of scientific investigation when addressing a question of the WAPF board and community
      • In February 2015 the WAPF released a rebuttal to these debates, which then sparked Dr. Daniels to submit her own samples of Green Pastures FCLO for testing, and this is what her report that was recently released in August covers
        • The first investigation in the report, can this even be fermented? (30:39)
        • The second piece she investigated was oil rancidity
          • The three different ways fats can go bad
        • One of the other pieces that Dr. Daniels looked at was the vitamin content
          • The omega 3 content is surprisingly low and there are trans fats present, but it is unclear if they are good or bad trans fats
          • There are questions around whether or not these tests actually looked at all the different forms of vitamin A, D, K2 and if some forms were missed
      • It is clear what additional questions need to be explored
      • However, others have tried to undermine Dr. Daniels report by making unscientific statements in rebuttal
      • This raises some concerns for Sarah:
        • We do not have all the answers and it is too difficult to make a statement yay or nay against FCLO
        • Dr. Daniels will not share the information on the five labs who tested the FCLO, or where the funding for these studies came from
        • This is essentially a debate between two sides and no one is providing all the information, which is frustrating because Sarah wants to share an informed decision with those looking for more information
      • Stacy's personal feelings on the information that is being shared and her approach until more information is available
  • Stacy just wants to encourage everyone to be subjective to the recommendations you receive, regardless of who those recommendations are coming from
  • Next week's show will be a sugar part 2 discussion
  • Please don't forget to leave those reviews in iTunes and to share with others
  • Outro (1:04:36)
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Episode 158, Sugar

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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Welcome to the first show of Stacy and Sarah's fourth year of podcasting!
    • Thoughts on the early episodes
    • The Reset & Thrive Library is live!
      • 40 never been bundled before resources from 40 leading health, wellness and organization authors
      • 28 discounts from some of the best vendors in the industry
      • AND a two-week BONUS meal plan using the cookbooks featured in the e-library
      • Only $39, and the 56 PDFs (not including the meal plan or discount codes) is valued at over $1000 ALONE!
      • We are calling this an e-library to avoid the confusion around bundles - these resources are yours to keep forever! You download one file and put any of those 58 PDFs on the devices of your choice
      • Why Sarah chose to include her book exclusively in the Reset & Thrive Library
      • Features resources extending far beyond the Paleo community
    • Sarah spent the weekend hanging out with Alaena from Grazed and Enthused shooting the cover from their new cookbook - The Healing Kitchen
      • Comes out February 23
      • Features 150 budget-friendly, quick and easy recipes made with everyday ingredients, you get to minimize time and effort preparing healthful foods without sacrificing flavor!  Straightforward explanations and a comprehensive collection of visual guides will teach you which foods are the best choices to mitigate chronic illnesses, including autoimmune disease.
      • Stores from the photoshoot for the book cover
  • This week's show features a topic that Stacy and Sarah haven't discussed in a long time, but is one that they always receive questions on - skin health
  • Skin shows the benefits of health changes last, and that is because skin is the lowest priority organ for the body and there is so much internal healing that is happening
  • Science with Sarah (31:14)
    • When you are dealing with a skin condition, the first step is reducing inflammation and regulating the immune system
    • When you stop the immune system from attacking the skin, we then need to heal the wounds, which requires a different set of resources
    • The steps that happen in the body when healing from a wound
    • The superstar nutrients that support wound healing
    • The nutrients to pair to optimize nutrient absorption
  • Questions & Answers (51:09)
    • Carrie-Ann: how long does it take to see skin healing after adopting an autoimmune protocol to manage psoriasis?
    • Emelie - what can I do to improve my keratosis pilaris?
  • The Angel Food Cake Matt made on the night Stacy and Sarah were recording the podcast
  • The Less Lasagna, dairy-less, grain-less, tomato-less
  • Outro (1:13:21)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Sarah's husband just celebrated his 40th birthday and Sarah threw him a huge party
    • Stacy had food poisoning over the weekend, which was not a fun way to spend the weekend - so she is now working on inoculating the gut and drinking broth/eating soup
    • So excited to announce the Reset & Thrive Library - an e-library OVERFLOWING with amazing resources!
      • Meant to help people moving into the fall and new academic season to reset from the summer and get organized in an easy way
      • Will include resources from the Paleo community, and those extending beyond
      • All resources have NEVER been in another bundle before, so the value is amazing
      • 40 resources for $39, the value of the bundle is over $1000 in the resources alone, doesn't even include the two big bonuses!!
      • We have over 25 vendors who contributed amazing discount codes
      • Will launch on Friday, August 21, and will only last through August 31
    • The podcast is on the eve of its three year birthday
    • How Stacy and Sarah's lives show that you can live your best life now, despite your health history, there is always time to improve, heal and nourish when you focus on a nutrient dense lifestyle
  • Science with Sarah (19:49)
    • This week on The Paleo View, we are excited to welcome back the Caltons for their third appearance on the show (first appearance and second appearance)
    • They just released their third bookfirst book and second book
    • More on The Micronutrient Miracle book
    • More from Sarah on the concept of 'functional food'
    • How the Caltons simplify the why and the how of all the various micronutrients
    • When you have micronutrient sufficiency, macro nutrients aren't as important
    • The micronutrient Jayson is most passionate about
    • Stacy's favorite nutrient
    • And Sarah's favorite
    • Not yet understanding the full picture
    • The people who struggle to make the lifestyle and diet changes, what can they do to work on micronutrient intake
    • The key steps to prioritize when improving your diet
    • Every person who buys a copy of the book will get FREE money to shop at their favorite health food shops - find all the details here
  • Special thanks to the Caltons for coming on this week's show - please be sure to check out the links above to listen to their previous appearances on The Paleo View and to learn more about their books
  • Outro (1:08:43)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy and Sarah's shared love for naps
    • Sarah's daughters just started school and Sarah is trying to get back into the swing of things
      • The amazing e-library that the Paleo Parents will be launching to help with the Mother's New Year, i.e. the start of a new school year
      • The Reset & Thrive Library will help individuals and families create balance, health and wellness as we head into fall and a new academic season - to not miss the announcement about this launch, subscribe to Stacy's and Sarah's newsletters
    • Stacy's injury - and what she has been doing to help with muscle tension (i.e. a car polisher)
    • The power of Stacy's treadmill desk and how it is helping with her recovery now that she brought it into the office
    • Enter to win a treadmill desk on Sarah's site!
    • What inspired the topic for this week's show, which is on sedentary lifestyles, and the reality of how common this kind of lifestyle is for so many, and how we cannot offset our sedentary lifestyle with only an hour of exercise each day
  • Science with Sarah (24:20)
    • The studies on the negative effects of sitting - see here for more information
    • What the statistics show
    • The simple things you can do to offset the long periods of sitting
    • The related importance of supporting your lymph system
    • What is the minimum we have to do to offset the negative effects of sitting
    • Stacy's tips for working in more movement during her time at the office
    • Living healthy is about so much more than just food
  • Be sure to check out Sarah's upcoming schedule of book signing events
  • In two weeks we will be celebrating the 3 year podcasting anniversary of The Paleo View - watch social media for news on how we will be celebrating this milestone!
  • Outro (1:01:04)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Huge welcome to this week's guest Sarah Ramsden 
      • How Stacy and Sarah B. know Sarah R.
    • Sarah B. was so inspired by Sarah R.'s story that she felt strongly about having her on the show to share her story
  • More from Sarah R. (4:33)
    • Her health seven years ago and the toll that stress took on her well-being
    • The diagnosis that shook her reality
    • What led her to look at the MS side of things and her discovery of Robb Wolf
    • How her career and passion completely changed and where that has led her today
    • How illness became Sarah R.'s gift
  • Her love for all things fermented and why
  • The benefits of fermented foods and the absorbability of the nutrients of these foods
  • What we don't yet know about fermentation
  • The challenges that can come with fermentation and Sarah R.'s tips
  • How to keep organized while fermenting foods
  • The mission of finding happiness and helping others find happiness
    • Re-evaluating success
  • Your choices today and where that leads you tomorrow
  • It is ok to not have all the answers, but to take a step back and to at least ask the questions about how you feel
  • Where you can find Sarah:
  • Outro (55:44)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Sarah is back from vacation - tales from customs
    • The massive Real Life Paleo Costco news and all the feels for Stacy
    • The mini-Costco book tour for Real Life Paleo
    • Sarah has The Paleo Approach Costco specific resources, which you can download on her site here
    • The anti-kale articles blowing up all over the internet
    • Other food myths circulating in media
    • The upcoming CrossFit games
    • Sarah's talk with her oldest daughter
    • Paleo Parents is launching another bundle, the Reset & Thrive Library, geared at helping families get organized and create balance and focus as they head into the fall and the new academic year
      • We will be sharing details as they become available
      • The library will feature 40 resources on planing and organization, healthy living practices, child raising resources, and so much more
      • The sale will launch on Friday, August 21
      • All 40 items included will be NEW and never before included in other bundles
      • Not just Paleo specific
  • Outro (41:13)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Hoping to take a week off without taking a week off
    • Stacy is lifting all the things in preparation for a content at the end of August
    • Stacy is also getting into the swing of eating super clean to support her training
    • #morevegtablesthanavegetarian
    • Sarah's vacation mode and what she has been doing
    • What Sarah is doing to tend to her health while on vacation
    • Sarah's feelings towards food pyramids
  • Science with Sarah (14:43)
    • What is in fruit and vegetables
    • The amount of produce hunter, gatherers ate
    • How you can play with your macros in this space
    • Not overdoing fruit
    • Understanding how fructose is metabolized with vitamins
    • How are families feel nurtured by us when we feed them vegetables
    • What is common in Stacy's house for vegetable consumption
    • What is common in Sarah's house for vegetable consumption
  • Questions & Answers (33:54)
    • Rachel - what is a serving size of vegetables?
    • Anti-nutrients and vegetables
    • Feelings on juicing
    • Sarah - what is the nutritional value of greenhouse grown vegetables?
  • We will be back next week!
  • Outro (58:41)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy's love for Tove Lo
    • The women's soccer team win and the pay gap
    • ESPN bodies issue
    • Inspired by this ESPN article, this week's show will be focused on activity and how it plays into your overall health
    • How Stacy and Sarah work on incorporating general activity into their day, and not just with dedicated exercise time, but general movement patterns throughout the day
    • The challenge with incorporating consistent movement
  • Science with Sarah (17:32)
    • The need to avoid really intense exercise, but how individual that intense point is from one person to the next
    • The connection between intense exercise and a leaky gut (for more on leaky gut see this episode and The Paleo Approach)
    • Strategies for mitigating a leaky gut when we are doing a more intense exercise
    • The longterm perspective on how to become stronger and more agile, without undermining your health
    • What Stacy does to support her intense lifts
  • Questions & Answers (29:45)
    • Natalie - what is the right rule of thumb when it comes to water intake when lifting weights or participating in HIIT, like CrossFit?
    • Melissa - how much is too much exercise?
  • Thank you everyone for listening - we will be back next week!
  • Outro (55:22)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
  • Rapid Fire (48:18)
    • Stacy's favorite guest - Stefani Ruper
    • Sarah's favorite guest - Russ Crandall
    • Least favorite guest situation - not to be named
    • Episode Stacy least enjoyed - poop
    • Episode Sarah least enjoyed - opposing/confusing views on science presented by guests
    • Drunk-casts
  • Special thanks to all the listeners and for the success you have brought to this show!
  • Outro (56:57)
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