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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy started aerial yoga, see the video here
    • All the love Sarah is sending to Stacy from the podcast licensers she met at her book signing events in Texas
    • How loved Sarah felt during her Texas stops, and especially by those who brought her AIP friendly food to enjoy during her hectic travels
      • What else Sarah did during her trip
    • When Sarah returned home, she had a busy Monday morning appearing on a local news station to help with the opening of a new Sprouts location
    • How Matt and Stacy eliminated their weekly stops to multiple grocery stores
    • For this week's show, we have a number of questions in the queue that are pretty general, but very common and will make for a great discussion for both those new to Paleo and those who have been following this template for a long time
  • Science with Sarah (15:57)
    • An article published in the scientific journal NatureDiet Induced Extinctions in the Gut Microbiota Compound Over Generations
    • The study asked the simple question - what happens to the gut micro biome when we go on a low fiber diet?
      • The standard american diet is a low fiber diet
      • What happens over the long-term
      • Are the results reversible
      • What happens from one generation to the next since we inherit our parents micro biome
    • The gut micro biome refers to the collection of microbes living in our digestive track
    • We have as many cells in our gut as we have in our whole body, if not double
    • We depend on this bacteria that lives in our gut - they help us digest our food, access nutrients from our food, create nutrients from our food, regulate the immune system, regulate our metabolism, they regulate our gut barrier, they regulate our neurotransmitters, they impact every system in our body
    • Every chronic illness is linked back to something going wrong with the bacteria in the gut
    • What makes for a healthy gut micro biome is one with a large variety of different types of species that live in our gut
    • We achieve this by eating a fiber rich diet from veggies, fruit, nut and seeds - and focusing on big portions of non-starchy vegetables with as much variety as possible
    • Too high of fat can mess with the type of bacteria that grows in our body
    • What the study did to explore the questions surrounding a low fiber diet
    • And what the study found when studying a low fiber diet in mice 
    • They then looked at what happened over the course of four generations of high-fiber diets vs. low-fiber diets, and switching on an off between the two
    • The paper emphasized that if we don't fix the food system, we are not going to be able to recover human health because how linked our health is with this diversity of the gut micro biome
      • Essentially bacteria extinction is taking place
    • Not just a SAD is to blame for these changes, low carb and ketogenic diets are also low fiber and they also happen to be high fat
    • Why emphasis on getting more vegetables is critical
    • The daily recommended allowance of fiber is 25 g
    • Aim for 9 to 14 servings of vegetables with a mix of starchy or non
      • You can use an app like CRON-O-Meter to track your fiber intake
    • The value that journaling for a couple of days can play in your overall health
    • Eat more vegetables, look for great sources of probiotics, don't regret the things you have done in the past
  • Questions & Answers (34:54)
    • Mary - can you overdo fiber?
      • Generally the answer is no, but there is a big but to the answer
      • Bacteria help us breakdown fiber - when we don't have the right types of bacteria to help us breakdown that fiber it can cause gastrointestinal symptoms
      • We can see these symptoms not only when fiber intake is too high, but when we are trying to increase our fiber intake, or reintroduce fiber after a SIBO approach where we are starving bad bacteria
      • Slowly increase fiber if you are experiencing trouble, as opposed to automatically focusing on the 25 g a day - monitor GI symptoms, and pull back if you experience uncomfortable side effects
    • Glenda - what are the best numbers to pay attention to for general health? What questions should I be asking my doctor during my annual physical?
      • Stacy notes that it depends on your doctor - that it may work best for you to know ahead of time what you are looking to gain from your yearly physical and ask for tests relevant to those specific questions
      • Stacy shared on the numbers that were most important to her to explore, and why those numbers were specific to her health and what she was dealing with
      • Stacy's general recommendations on numbers is to look into triglycerides, HGL, LDL, and blood sugar
      • Sarah notes that all of the general tests that your doctor will run are excellent, but she recommends to be educated on the reference numbers
      • If you think you have a problem with a particular system, that is where requesting more detailed testing is useful, but if you are monitoring how things are going, the usual tests will suffice
    • Kimberly - are there some general guidelines to Paleo to follow?
      • The general guidelines that Stacy follows:
        • She values nutrients and focuses on where she is going to get her nutrients for the day, and she does monitor both calories and macros
        • She thinks ahead through the day and how to achieve a balance that supports her health goals
        • She makes sure she is going to get organ meat a couple of times a week, which Stacy gets through EPIC's Liver Bites
        • She also makes sure that she is getting seafood and broth a few times a week
      • These guidelines may be a little overwhelming to someone who is fairly new to Paleo - a better way to look at it would be, is this the most healthy thing I can eat or does it simply taste good?
      • Also consider your core food groups - get in the habit of eating meat and vegetables
      • Your best approach is to practice moderation with your macro intake - 20/30% protein, 25/40% carbs, 30/55% fat
      • Going with 1/3, a 1/3, 1/3 and letting things fluctuate a bit here an there from one day to the next will ensure balance
      • 1/4 of your plate should be protein, with maybe 1 starchy vegetable and a couple of non-starchy vegetables
      • Keep a food journal, be mindful, and make sure your caloric intake isn't through the roof
      • How Stacy has calculated her macros and how she adjusted them to tackle her specific health goals
      • How Sarah gets her macros and the value she has found from journaling
      • How tracking has impacted both Stacy and Sarah's mental and physical health
  • The next Go to Bed group challenge starts this Sunday (learn more about this program on this podcast episode or visit the site HERE)
  • Stacy encourages everyone to get in on handstand month
  • Make sure you are signed up for both Stacy and Sarah's newsletters to not miss all the amazing posts and recipes that are going out!
  • Thank you everyone for submitting your votes for Paleo Magazine Best of 2015!!
  • And please don't forget to leave a review for The Paleo View
  • Thanks everyone!
  • Outro (1:12:17)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • After 5 days of being stuck at home from Winter Storm Jonas, Stacy thoroughly enjoyed her first trip out and a visit to a coffee shop!
    • In Stacy's area they got 30+ inches of snow
      • They had electricity the whole time and had a lot of fun because they were prepared
      • They also made a lot of recipes for the blog and played a lot of board games
      • The kids even went out in the hot tub during the thick of the blizzard
    • Sarah received a little bit of snow and her kids went crazy for what they called "snow day"
    • The issues the snow is causing in Stacy's area
    • Stacy's handstand challenge her and Finn are doing together
    • Sarah prepping for the CrossFit open, and her wall ball challenge
    • Sarah's excitement for finally being able to talk the CrossFit lingo, and Stacy has inspired her to start a handstand challenge as well
    • Why Stacy chose a handstand challenge
      • If you have been following along on Instagram and want more information, tune in to Stacy's Strong Woman Radio's co-host, Vivian's periscope where they share more on these challenges
    • Stacy is so excited about all the recipes they will be sharing from their stretch of time home during the winter storm
    • Be sure you are signed up for Sarah's and Stacy's newsletters so that you don't miss these special recipes, events, etc.
    • If you are in Austin or Houston, reminder that Sarah is in town the weekend this show airs - get all the event details HERE
  • Science with Sarah (22:44)
    • It is the season where people who went Paleo as a New Years resolution are starting to feel really good and want to keep going
    • That three to four week marker with the implementation of a Paleo lifestyle is when the magic starts to happen and you can't imagine ever doing anything else
    • Stacy and Sarah thought it would be great for this week's episode to focus on how we talk about Paleo - this is perfect for those who are new to the community and new to the excitement that comes with this transformation
    • When Sarah was new to Paleo and seeing such amazing results she wanted to share the information with others, and she did with every random stranger she would encounter, which turned out to not be an appropriate channel for her enthusiasm, which is why she started a blog
    • Starting a blog isn't necessarily an appropriate avenue for how to handle that enthusiasm for everyone, so understanding how to talk about your diet and lifestyle with others is a valuable understanding to have
    • Stacy wants to make it very clear that she is not judging anyone, nor telling others what they should or should not eat - Stacy and Sarah discuss foods that are "Paleo approved" versus foods that are "treats" that are good for mental or social stability
    • Stacy's feelings towards the question - is that Paleo?
    • Sarah's thoughts on the 'what did cavemen' do argument
    • Alcohol while on a Paleo diet
      • The current consensus within the Paleo community is that occasional to moderate consumption of non-gluten containing alcohol is ok
    • We have to figure out how to implement Paleo and define the template within modern society and within the context of contemporary science
    • There are certain 'is it Paleo' questions that have maybe answers to them - there is no yes and no answer to these questions
    • In Sarah's opinion the 'is it Paleo' question is not the best question to ask, that we should instead make our decisions based on the answer to 'is this health promoting?'
    • Within this framework there is a lot of room for individual experimentation and figuring out what works for us as individuals
  • Questions & Answers (35:02)
    • Pam - how to handle someone who tells me that following a diet free of gluten is lacking in nutrients and will eventually lead to health problems?
      • When Stacy encounters someone with these beliefs, she reminds herself that these are the kind of people who are not interested in hearing about her lifestyle and to just move on
      • Is someone asking a question because they are genuinely trying to understand your choices, or is someone simply feeling defensive about their food choices
      • Food choices are really personal and sometimes people feel defensive about them
      • Sarah's post on 'Gluten-Free Diets Can Be Healthy for Kids' - this post has great information on nutrients as it relates to a gluten-free diet
      • When Sarah views an occasion as an opportunity to educate and when she doesn't
      • If someone is just trolling and you engage them in a conversation that will not go anywhere, you will just create stress for yourself
    • Karen (46:27) how to handle a spouse who is not in support of your Paleo lifestyle?
      • Check out these two posts on Paleo Parents:
      • What happened with Matt and Stacy since she went Paleo before her husband and kids did
      • Real Life Paleo and Paleo to Go both have helpful tools to navigate eating out Paleo
      • Stacy shared details on what she eats when she goes out and how she orders her food to ensure she doesn't get served a food that she doesn't tolerate
      • Stacy has found that if she asks the waiter for a recommendation based on her limitations, that by far people are helpful and want to make sure she can have a meal she can fully enjoy
      • How Sarah and her family handled their transition since Sarah started before her husband and kids did as well
        • Sarah found that it was important to show her husband that food on Paleo was still delicious
        • Focus on the positives and frame your conversations accordingly - don't focus on what you don't eat
      • The importance of support in a relationship
    • Jackie (55:45) why do friends encourage cheating and not take people's personal choices seriously?
      • Stacy thinks that either a) they are not thinking or b) they feel better if they have someone to indulge with
      • Stacy has had to ask people (her father and co-workers in particular) are you really encouraging me to do something that does not support my health?
        • "Please don't tell me that just this bite is ok"
      • Stacy tries to just be encouraging back at people, and makes it clear that they can still enjoy X even if she is making the choice to not have something
      • One of Sarah's phrases is "no judgement" because people often feel the need to justify their choices when with her
      • Sarah feels that it is not her business what someone else chooses to eat
      • Stacy and Sarah's thoughts on the enablers in your life
      • Think about what kind of relationships you have in your life and the roles that they play to support your goals, happiness, etc.
    • Sue (1:07:29) - I find myself judging other's choices, and know that this is a bad habit. How can I fix this?
      • It is important to keep the mindset of no judgement and to be able to recognize when it is appropriate to share your opinions and beliefs with others
      • Work on reframing your brain, it will help you pull back on being judgmental 
      • How Stacy handles expressing a concern regarding someone's health and their choices
      • People will not be motivated to make changes unless they are ready to do so, and the same applies to the readiness and willingness to accept criticism/feedback towards their food choices
      • You cannot impose your will on someone else
      • Be a role model through your actions and when someone is ready, than you can be a source of support and information
  • Thanks all for listening! We will be back again next week with another show!
  • Outro (1:19:45)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Welcome back to the east coast Sarah!
    • Sarah adjusting from a busy weekend of travel from book signing events
    • Stacy was late to tonight's Paleo View recording because the family was in the middle of an epic board game
    • This week's show will be a check-in episode since Sarah is feeling so jet lagged from her travels
    • While in Vegas Sarah both visited her publisher Victory Belt, and went hiking in the Red Rocks
    • What else Sarah did while in Las Vegas
    • If you missed Sarah's Phoenix and Las Vegas signings, be sure to sign up for her newsletter so you don't miss future events
      • Sarah will be in Austin and Houston next, get all the details here 
    • Sarah will announce her next book in the next two months, but know that it will be bigger than The Paleo Approach
    • Sarah's events from this past weekend were amazing - incredible attendees, great discussion, all around wonderful!
    • And a special congratulations to Alaena on the success of the book release, signings, and THIS!!
    • Memories from The Paleo View book tour
    • Sarah and Alaena were the first Paleo authors to ever host an event in Las Vegas
    • The event attendees meeting at signings and networking on Paleo resources in Las Vegas - cool to watch the connections forming
    • Thoughts on future book signing event locations
    • A big thank you to The Paleo View listeners for nominating the podcast in two categories, General Health/Wellness and Science - for Paleo Magazine's Best of 2015
      • What an honor it is to be nominated in BOTH of those categories and why
      • Submit your votes here, voting is open through January 31
      • When you vote you get a discount to subscribe to Paleo Magazine
    • And a huge thank you for nominating Paleo Parents as 'Best Blog, Family' - such a phenomenal surprise!
      • The feels towards the comments received from people on this nomination
      • Taking a step back from the blog in 2015 and focusing on health, specifically Cole's health
      • Cole possibly coming back on The Paleo View with an update on how he is doing (his original appearance can be heard here)
    • Sarah received nominations for The Healing Kitchen and Paleo Bites
      • Check out the pilot here and share with friends and family, leave comments
    • What else and who else Sarah and Stacy voted for
    • What falls on Stacy's and Sarah's #paleoyolo list
    • The treats that Stacy and Sarah's kid select when given the chance to
    • The candies that people find in Stacy's office and what they prefer
    • While sugar is a delicious thing, how quickly the palate can adjust if you are at a point where you need to incorporate treats with less sugar - Sarah reminds people how quickly your taste buds turn over
    • Stacy's favorite treat right now is sugar-less dried mango from Whole Foods
    • Stacy's love for mangos (Mango Sticky (not) RiceMango Strawberry SmoothieMango Blueberry Ice Cream FloatsMango Citrus Jigglers)
  • Sarah is wrapping up the show to go meditate and go to bed
  • Stacy is back to working out, and kicking things off with handstand month - super exciting how well Stacy is feeling
  • Sarah just registered for the CrossFit open
  • We will be back next week with a great topic!
  • Thank you all for listening and please don't forget to vote for Paleo Magazine Best Of here
  • Outro (41:43)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy's back treatment was extremely successful and she is more mobile than she has been since summer
      • It was an inflammation issue
      • After a third treatment all discomfort should be gone
      • Stacy is still waiting to return to lifting, and will likely instead start yoga to work on mobility and strengthening her body
      • And then possibly incorporate personal training once a week to ease into things
    • Sarah has been doing personal training since her kids went back to school and is seeing so many benefits from having someone who can both pace her and help her get strong, while not taking away from her health
      • Not reaching burnout and having consistency with her training has been phenomenal and paying off
    • Unfortunately after Stacy's back felt better, she got hit with food poisoning and an infection
    • Sarah killing the PR's at the gym lately
      • How Sarah's diet and lifestyle factors have allowed for these PR's to happen
      • And she has been doing all these things to manage her health so that she can write her next book
      • How phenomenal Sarah is feeling right now both mentally and physically, and how grateful she feels for reaching this point
    • Making the smart choice over the fun choice
    • This week's show topic comes from a place of wanting everyone to be healthy, and wanting the best for everybody
      • A reminder, Paleo is a personal approach diet and lifestyle that needs to be self-customized to meet your needs
    • The kind of recipes that are readily availability to those new to Paleo, due to the popularity of these recreations that would have initially fallen in the 20% bracket when Paleo was still a fairly new diet
    • The pressures of being a recipe developer in the Paleo community
    • There are better approaches and not so health approaches to Paleo recipes, and we are getting quite the variety in the movement these days
    • Throughout Stacy's years following a Paleo approach, she has made many choices where she has went with the fun option, as opposed to the one that has supported her health, and she learned quite a bit from these moments and how they impact her goals
    • Making choices to feel your best as opposed to hoping on the snowball
    • In light of the new year and new goals, this week's show will allow us all to take a step back and remember what the point of Paleo is
    • How do we identify if a food is Paleo or not?
    • How the 'what did hunter-gathers eat?' argument mucks up the water for the discussion on what is the healthiest approach to life now
    • Evaluating whether or not a food is a health promoting food and why this is the ideal guiding point in our discussion
      • While this approach still has gray areas to it, you can better understand how food will effect the body
    • Stacy's point on the need for rules and guiding points, and how confusing it can be when these aren't present
    • Sarah's explanation for Paleo as a template that requires self experimentation to see what works best for you, which includes defining balance and sustainability that works for you
      • What makes your body thrive, versus what does your body tolerate
      • Finding that place in the middle where you can feel content with your choices
    • Paleo is not something you do to achieve a short-term goal, Paleo choices are about long-term health to have a high quality life for as long as you can
  • How Sarah and Stacy Define Paleo (32:24)
    • Sarah likes to emphasize that there is no macronutrient prescription within Paleo
      • Its a whole foods diet, not a high fat or low carb diet
    • Paleo hones in on the most essential building blocks that our cells need, the raw materials that are needed for all the chemical reactions in every cell
    • The word Paleo isn't used in Sarah's household - they instead think of their lifestyle as nutrient dense, anti-inflammatory, and one that promotes optimal gut health and hormone regulation
    • Both a limitation and growth factor for this movement is the label, while it makes this approach searchable, it carries a stigma
    • Stacy's mention of the new show 'My Diet is Better Than Yours'
  • The Ingredients (41:11)
    • Why Matt and Stacy structured Real Life Paleo around the transitional foods
      • Getting to the healing, nutrient-dense foods in phase 3
    • The recreation foods (ice cream, brownies, cookies, etc.) are so much more popular that the superfoods are not what we see on social media
    • Old school Paleo baked good ingredients will never be a nutrient competitor for meat and vegetables
      • Baked goods containing these ingredients are very energy dense for the amount of nutrients in them
    • There are so many people that come to Paleo to lose weight or find health, so promoting this idea of "clean, healthy Paleo treats" can be misleading and gets away from the point
      • These foods are great for transitioning away from conventional foods or for special occasions and celebrations, but should not be mistaken for a routine food to include
      • Using these foods as crutches as opposed to occasional treats
    • Sarah doesn't feel that we need to give up treats or indulgent foods, but we each need to individually look at what is the right balance of treat foods verses health promoting foods
    • People want a definition for moderation, but there isn't a one size fits all - that is part of the beauty of the Paleo lifestyle, that we move away from living by numbers and tracking
    • When you choose foods within a Paleo framework, most people will naturally end up in a healthful caloric range for their bodies
    • Changing your palette to not crave these "healthful treats" is key to managing cravings and finding a healthy balance with indulgences and treats
    • It is missing the point to consistently have foods that are void of nutrients and do not promote health
    • It is difficult for Stacy to get in the nutrients she needs to consume within the caloric range that is appropriate for her if she is eating really energy dense foods that are either nut based or cassava flour based, or even adding bananas to things
    • Both Stacy and Sarah use these nutrient dense ingredients, but they each have to make themselves aware of where the balance falls for them, their health, and their goals
    • Stacy hopes that people are mindful of what their goals are and what the point of this all is
    • Ingredients that are a treat, but don't send Sarah "running for the hills"
    • The reintroduction foods that you play with to test how you respond to their incorporation into your lifestyle
      • High quality dairy
      • Rice
      • Potatoes
      • Alcohol
    • The scientifically supported, not Paleo items
      • Any non-nutritive sweetener
      • Emulsifiers (you can find more information on these ingredients on Sarah's site here)
        • Guar gum
        • Carrageenan
        • Xanthan gum
        • Lecithin
        • Psyllium husk
      • Looking at an ingredient and thinking about what it is replacing and whether or not it is doing us any good
  • Why We Wanted to Talk about this Topic (1:11:51)
    • Awareness of food choices is so phonemically important in order to be able to understand how food interacts with our bodies
    • This is the time of year where so many new people come to Paleo to achieve their health goals, but when people come to Paleo and don't feel good because they are overdoing it on these questionable ingredients, we are missing the opportunity to help these people
    • Being intentional with your food choices
    • If we want the Paleo movement to continue to grow, we want to help people find health, and so we need to improve the awareness about where these lines are
      • That doesn't mean never crossing these lines, but instead understanding how these ingredients work for you
    • We are not hoping to throw anyone under the bus or to guilt anyone out of their favorite treats, but to instead encourage awareness and intention with food choices so that we can continue to make this a movement about achieving health
  • Sarah is going to be in Phoenix the Saturday after this show airs and in Las Vegas on Sunday, get the details here on those events, and check out the information on additional signings at the end of the month in Houston and Austin as well
  • Thanks everyone for listening!
  • Outro (1:17:54)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • How Sarah and family spent the start of the new year - with loads of relaxation and spending time together at home
    • Stacy and family's goal to welcome 2016 with nothing but pajama days
    • Both Stacy and Sarah, and their families, are ready to get back into the routine
    • An update from Stacy on her back - still very much in the diagnostic phase, didn't get an MRI, had x-rays done, which showed that there is a lot of inflammation in the joints, so Stacy is doing some treatment to help with that particular issue
      • At this point Stacy is focusing on rest and sleep to help with recovery
      • Stacy is also utilizing a low-inflamatory diet to help support her body's healing
    • The road to Sarah's first autoimmune disease diagnosis and the flag that joint pain raised
    • Stacy's approach in taking her recovery day by day, and the confirmation she received on her healing that has happened from her transition to Paleo that was seen in her her x-rays
  • Sarah's new program, Go to Bed (24:24)
    • Which is a sleep rehab program and an epic e-book
    • The book was inspired from the book tour and receiving the common question of - I am seeing improvements, but am not healing like I should be, what am I doing wrong?
    • Sarah's response to this question is always, how is your sleep?
    • Sarah wrote about the role that sleep plays on the immune system in The Paleo Approach, but wanted to delve into the topic even more to share on the profound impacts it has to other systems within the body
    • After reading up more on sleep and sharing many more blog posts on the role that sleep plays in overall health, it became clear that this was a topic that would make for a great book and to tackle all that sleep impacts in far more detail
    • Sarah created Go to Bed as an e-book so that she could update the content (and distribute updates to those who already purchased it) as the science around sleep and health continue to evolve
    • Sleep quickly falls off our radar when he become overly focused on the role that diet and exercise play, which are important pieces, but sleep is still a critical component to healthy living
    • Sarah wanted to create a resource that put sleep back on our to-do list and distill all the science into action items
    • There is a 14-day sleep challenge built into the program, which is essentially a process on implementing 14 small changes over the course of those days
    • The program will ease you into the best bang for your buck approach to improving your sleep, and you will see tremendous improvement in your sleep over those 14 days, giving you a taste of what adequate sleep feels like, motivating you to continue to work on making those habits stick
    • The program is not designed to be a hard thing that you follow and then stop once you complete it - it is instead designed to ease you into lifelong habits that will improve your sleep quality and quantity
    • The first challenge just started, but the group challenges will start the first Sunday of every month, except in January there will be two groups - with the second group starting on Sunday, January 17
    • All it takes to join the group is to buy the program, sign up for the email series if you would like them, and then go to the Facebook and Instagram pages to collect group support and inspiration
    • How quickly the research on sleep is evolving and the insights it is providing
    • Sarah feels like this is an exciting time to stay in the know on what the scientific community is discovering in regards to sleep
    • How sleep makes you more resilient to stress, and when you are stressed how difficult it is to get sleep - this e-book has tools for managing both stress and sleep since those things are interlinked
  • Stacy's goals in the new year as it pertains to healthy sleep habits
  • Find more information on the book Go to Bed HERE, and also review the full table of contents
  • There is a special launch discount available right now, simply use the code 'INEEDSLEEP' to get 30% off
    • The program will never go on sale again after the sale expires in about a week
  • Thank you for tuning in everyone!
  • We will be back next week!
  • Outro (52:12)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Sarah got to see Star Wars and it was awesome
    • When we put out the 'Ask Us Anything' call for questions we received a lot of new years related questions, so are dedicating this week's show to that topic and those questions
    • Sarah has been paleo for a little over four years and Stacy is in her 6th year of paleo, which is the longest either Sarah or Stacy have stuck to anything, maintained their weight-loss, continued to improve their health, etc.
    • Stacy and Sarah are able to talk about habit formation from the other side
    • There are still some things that both Stacy and Sarah continue to struggle with that require extra mindfulness
    • When you are starting any kind of health change it can be very overwhelming, and it can feel hard and be discouraging that it feels hard - but it does get easier, and is worth the effort, and you get to the other side before you know it
    • Stacy and Sarah have differing opinions on the subject of new years habits and challenges, and you will hear those differences throughout the show
      • For background on Stacy's feelings towards challenges see here and here
    • It is important that you know who you are and what works for your body and your habits
    • Stacy's feelings towards the short-term restriction habit and the cycle that it creates for her - she instead focuses on building out a focused approach on incorporating all that makes her feel her best, and making strong choices that support her health goals
      • If she wants a bite of something that is not within the perfect parameters of what Stacy has defined for herself, she has that and moves forward without guilt
      • This makes it easier for her to not binge on the backend
      • Or to find things along the way of a restriction diet that are "within the rules" but aren't adding value to her life
    • Sarah comes from the side of not liking any healthy living habit that defines an endpoint, she instead feels like the priorities of a paleo diet are about sustained lifelong health
    • If you have an end point, then you have permission to stop doing whatever it is you are doing to achieve that health goal you set out to accomplish
    • Ending worse than where you started
    • Spending the length of your challenge with a rebellion mentality, trying to stretch the rules, and the mental game this creates
    • Sarah wants to talk about habit formation, taking action to form those habits, and thinking about sustainability and creating an action that promote health and becomes a natural thing to do
    • Not defining an end point when identifying your goals and creating habits around those goals
    • For Christmas Stacy got a lifestyle thing that is like a FitBit, but for your brain - Spire
      • Tracks your breathing and gives you goals
      • Stacy has learned that she is really bad at being calm
    • The health challenges that Stacy and Sarah continue to work through along their journey
    • Sarah does not wait for a date, she identifies when things are sliding and reigns it in immediately - which is one of the biggest things she has learned in her health journey, don't wait to pick yourself up
    • The continued work on habit formation, but knowing that you are human and quickly recognizing when you are going down a road that you shouldn't be
  • Questions & Answers (21:12)
    • Gale - I want to start Paleo, but every time I try something new I end up right back with my old ways of eating. What tips do you have for sticking to Paleo past January?
      • Define what you are doing Paleo for and make sure it is something that really matters to you and is not just an aesthetic thing
      • Identifying the little things - being aware of the cause and effect between food and your health (i.e. if I eat this I will break out)
      • The only way to identify those cause and effects is to stick with it and to remind yourself that you are making the choice to do this change and that you want to follow a Paleo diet
      • Create a positive mindset around the choices you are making
      • 30 days is not a magic number for everyone
      • If at the end of a timeframe determined by you, you would like to reintroduce certain foods, do it mindfully and with observations to see how those foods make you feel
      • Honor what style of change works best to you, and look at what makes you successful when adopting change
      • The cold turkey approach does not work for everyone - and 30 days does not work for habit formation (see here for more details on that)
      • Creating steps in your transition and listening to yourself to figure out how Paleo fits best within your life
      • Keep sustainability in mind and remember that you are working to identify the balance that will be needed to maintain this for the rest of your life
      • We set ourselves up to feel deprived when we define Paleo by what we cannot eat
      • Celebrate all the amazing foods you get to eat instead of mourning the foods that you do not get to eat
      • Real Life Paleo has tips, details and recipes on how to transition into paleo as opposed to being a 21 or 30 day challenge thing
    • Meg - I am just starting Paleo, what are some guidelines for portion control? (30:59)
      • Both Stacy and Sarah still struggle with over-eating, and this is common for many people and it is easy to overeat Paleo foods
      • You could weigh or measure food for 3 to 5 days to get a feel for what servings look like and how you feel when you consume certain servings
      • You could also look up tricks online (50% of your dinner plate being vegetables, palm of your hand is a serving of protein, etc.)
      • Using smaller plates can also help with overeating
      • Staying well hydrated, managing stress, and getting adequate sleep can also all help with calorie consumption regulation
      • Calories do matter, even if you are eating nutrient dense foods
      • There are many tools that you can use to track your intake
      • How Stacy and Sarah incorporate tracking
      • Toying with your macros can be very tricky, and the research Stacy has done to identify what works best for her
    • Kristina - how do you prepare for a successful week with a busy schedule? (41:57)
      • This is going to take some trial and error to find what works best for you
      • Every four or five days Sarah will cook a huge dinner, which includes several meals worth of meat and three or four different vegetables
      • Sarah's family is able to incorporate leftovers most of the time, with slight variations to the sides - she does a lot of freezing for back up options as well
      • Melissa from Well Fed does a huge weekly cook up
      • There are services like Once a Month Meal to help you plan out freezer batch cooking for the length of the month
      • For Matt and Stacy they have go to meals for the week, and then buy meat in bulk that they have in their freezer ready to go
      • Matt and Stacy have also been incorporating weekly meal planning, which you can read all about and see the menus here
      • Planning in eating out meals and the restaurants that will support your health goals
      • Maybe you take a combination approach - ultimately there are a lot of different options
    • Kristina - I want to try CrossFit, but I am terrified. How do you pick a gym and get pass the fear? (48:53)
      • Stacy wrote two posts on this that you can find here and here
      • Make sure you find a place with one-on-one intro training to help you onboard with the coaching, style of movements, etc.
      • What to look for in the atmosphere, coaches, stance on form, and fellow class members
      • Listen to your body and don't push yourself to hard
      • Make sure you are getting proper nutrition and rest to support your workouts
      • Its ok to leave a gym if you don't find what you are looking for
    • Debbie - What are your thoughts on nutritional challenges? (56:08)
      • Stacy thinks they are ridiculous and an abomination to our community that we so strongly encourage them within the context of a Paleo diet
      • Sarah doesn't feel like any of them are properly designed - they all focus on what you don't do, and all of them have a low carb bias
      • If Sarah saw a challenge that had a focus on nutrient density and was more real life, she would be in support of them
      • It is not a sustainable approach to work on health from a place of deprivation
      • Be aware and thoughtful about how you approach this lifestyle - have goals and self-respect and self-love through this time, and make it about making the best choices possible
      • Don't miss the point of paleo - focus on nutrient dense and low-inflammatory foods, sleep, stand walk, get exercise, work on stress management
    • Jen - what kitchen tools do you find most helpful for those new to Paleo? (1:00:37)
    • Erika - Are there Paleo protein shakes I can incorporate to my post workout regimen? (1:05:44)
    • Crunchy Mama - How do you stay excited about Paleo? (1:07:08)
      • Stacy stays excited about Paleo because it is something they do together as a family and feel healthier and happier because of it
      • Matt and Stacy have also built a community around them that inspires them to try new recipes, meet new people living the same life, etc.
      • Sarah doesn't think about it, this is just the way she lives and eats now
      • Sarah's excitement comes from the reality that she is healthy in a way she has never been able to maintain before
  • Sarah has a brand new e-book, Go to Bed, a complete program with 14 easy steps to healthier sleep, be sure to check it out as  you tackle your health goals in the new year
    • Will be available for 30% off in January only with the code 'INEEDSLEEP'
  • Wishing everyone a wonderful New Year!
  • Thank you for tuning in!
  • Outro (1:15:23)
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  • Intro (0:00)
  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Happy Holidays!
    • Since this show will air on Christmas, Stacy and Sarah thought it would be fun to host a light, 'ask us anything' show - where the call for questions was put out on both Instagram and Facebook earlier in the week
    • If you sent in a question and they aren't answered tonight, we will put them in the queue for a future show
      • The Paleo Parent's team will be answering the remaining questions submitted to Stacy's Facebook and Instagram directly on social media
    • The Healing Kitchen released last week, the release party was held the weekend after, and Sarah is feeling exhausted from the busy schedule and the late nights
    • Sarah and her husband showed their older daughter Star Wars movies 4, 5, 6 and then episodes 1, 2, 3 before taking her to see the 7th movie
    • Favorite lines from The Lego Movie 
  • Ask Us Anything (9:21)
    • How did the two of you end up doing a podcast together?
      • Sarah's first paleo book she received to review was Eat Like a Dinosaur
      • Stacy and Matt really liked Sarah's site and the content and knowledge she brought to the paleo community, and reached out to her looking to collaborate on a number of things
      • Matt's long-time interest in producing a podcast
      • Stacy identifying Sarah as a great fit as a podcast co-host because of the angle she brought to the table
      • How they identified their show format
      • Matt figured out the logistics
      • The show then vs. now
    • How did you all meet? How did you find your crew?
      • Stacy is a bit of a social butterfly and loves to host parties, which is how she built her community
      • Liz Wolfe was Stacy's entry point into the paleo community
      • Creating a village based on your interests
      • As a blogger, the necessity of having a community to share ideas with, vent, etc. 
      • Getting together in person once a year at Paleo f(x)
      • Creating a Meet-Up group
      • Sarah found her community grew through Stacy
      • Fans turned friends
      • The importance of friendships and community - how they propel you to be your best self
    • If you weren't doing what you are doing now, what would you be doing?
      • Stacy would be a professional food critic
      • What Stacy does during the day for her job as a negotiator
      • Sarah would be running her own research lab
      • Stacy's back up plan is a bed & breakfast, which will happen the year Wesley graduates
    • Where is your favorite place you ever vacationed?
      • Stacy's regular spot is Smith Mountain Lake
      • And Stacy's close follow up favorites are Universal Studios in Florida, and the Low Carb Cruise she went on with Matt
      • The road trip and camping trips Sarah took with her family when she was younger - Wickaninnish Beach, Wells Gray Provincial Park, Pinery Provincial Park
      • Sarah's experience taking the girls to Disney
      • Sarah's experience in Florence, Italy
    • What is your favorite kitchen gadget or toy? What is on your wish list?
      • Stacy's is her iSi Whip Creamer, and on her wish list is a coffee espresso machine
      • The thing Sarah uses the most is her electrical kettle, and her close second is her waffle iron
      • On Sarah's wish list is an air fryer
    • What is your biggest pet peeve that comes with being "paleo celebs"?
      •  Stacy's is when she doesn't remember someone she has met before, or can't identify them based on their Instagram profile
      • Sarah's is how many different demands there are on her time - more specifically company reps  and certain people
  • Tangent, Matt and Stacy are working on a nut-free, egg-free version of Monkey Bread that they are hoping to push live on the blog before Christmas
    • Favorite spot for a date night out and why?
      • Stacy's is The Alamo, which is a dinner-theatre in the area
      • Sarah's is the local theatre where her family takes acting classes, and to take improv classes with her husband
    • What would you go back and tell yourself ten years ago, knowing what you now know about your life, your health, your success, etc.?
      • Stacy's is - don't eat that and also to stop dieting
      • Sarah's would be - everything she knows about science is applicable, and it doesn't take a lot of digging to find answers
    • What is a paleo trend which you at first loved but are now totally over?
      • Stacy's is recreating a recipe to be paleo that is still void of nutrients, and how many bloggers cater to those demands from the paleo community
      • Sarah's is that we can eat as much fat as we want and the science behind why this is ridiculous thinking
    • What is your most hated activity in Strongman/CrossFit?
      • Stacy's least favorite is sled drills
      • Sarah's is weighted lunges and weighted running
    • Are there things about each other that annoy you both?
      • Of course, but those aren't things they need to talk about
    • How did you meet and fall in love with your husband?
      • See this post from Stacy here on how they met
      • And Stacy realized she loved Matt at a Thanksgiving dinner with Matt's family
      • Sarah met her husband at university when going to talk to her crush, who was talking to Sarah's now husband
      • The meeting that both Stacy and her husband were at and how funny he was, and how that sparked a friendship, which eventually led to a dinner invite and date
      • Sarah fell in love with her husband's sense of humor
      • Survivors of Dad jokes - a YouTube must see
    • What kind of day job does Stacy do?
      • Stacy reads technical documents all day long that involves negotiations with the federal government
    • How are your sex lives since going paleo?
      • Matt did a blog post on this topic here
      • Sarah is going to say good
      • Losing weight, hormone regulation and balanced energy is always a good thing for relationships
    • Typical day is?
      • Stacy sleeps in pretty late, then has a coffee or tea when leaving after spending a bit of time with the kids, Stacy goes to work and has both breakfast and lunch there, then she comes home and they have a family dinner together, and then they play games, read books, workout, etc. before the kids go to bed
      • Sarah gets up at 6:30 and makes her kid's lunches, she then drives them to school and goes right to CrossFit, comes home after training and gets right to work, only breaking once for a meal until her kids get home, and then she picks her kids up and they do after school activities, Sarah then makes dinner, plays games and reads books with the girls, and then her kids are to bed pretty early, and then she works for a little bit longer and around 9:00 p.m. wraps up to have time with her husband and wind down
    • What is your favorite color?
      • Stacy's is black
      • Sarah's is green
  • Wishing everyone a happy holiday, we will be back next week!
  • Stacy reminds people to keep your head on between Christmas and New Years
  • Outro (1:13:47)
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  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Welcome back to America Sarah!
    • The Healing Kitchen released this week, and people are loving it - and Sarah notes that there is no greater feeling than that!
    • Sarah went back to Canada for two days and was able to leave signed copies of The Healing Kitchen at Cultured Caveman in Portland, Tanner's Bookstore in Sydney, British Columbia, and at Bolen Books in Victoria Canada at Hillside Mall
    • Sarah and Alaena are hosting virtual book signings, and you can access the virtual event and all the details through Sarah's YouTube
    • Sarah and Alaena are also sending out personalized book plates, and is all you have to do is send proof of purchase to contact@thepaleomom.com with the subject line 'book plate' and let Sarah know the mailing address and who you want the book plate made out to and they will send it along
    • Sarah and Alaena's book release party in Atlanta - get all the details and register here
    • Matt and Stacy cooked out of The Healing Kitchen for an entire week and feasted like kings - see all the details here
    • How Alaena and Sarah went about developing recipes for The Healing Kitchen
    • As you are getting the book and cooking from it, please tag your shares with #TheHealingKitchen so we can see your results and hear what you think about it
    • Please also take a moment to post reviews on AmazonBarnes & Noble, anywhere else you see the opportunity to leave a review - these are helpful when others are looking to purchase the book
    • Sarah is running a $1000 AIP foods and gift certificates giveaway, get all the details here
    • All that Stacy is planning for in the year ahead that is not business related
    • The fun Mickey and Sarah had while Sarah was visiting
  • Thanks everyone for listening!
  • Outro (29:37)
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  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy has been cooking out of The Healing Kitchen this week as part of her weekly meal planning, which has been great since Stacy is trying to get closer to an autoimmune approach
      • To see all the meals they have been enjoying from Sarah's new book, check out Stacy's Instagram
    • Sarah's feelings towards the great feedback that is coming back on The Healing Kitchen, and all that people are enjoying from the book
    • The Healing Kitchen will be in bookstores on Tuesday, and on Amazon the book is currently on sale for 40% off, and will be shipping early so it arrives on Tuesday
    • On Paleo Parents weekly 'What We Ate Wednesday' post, next week will feature look at all that Matt, Stacy and family loved about The Healing Kitchen
    • On this week's show Stacy and Sarah will be sharing ideas on how to discuss your food choices (and the food choices that you are making for your children) to others, and how to protect your kid's food choices on their behalf when they aren't with you
    • These topics are important all year long, but are especially important to discuss around the holidays, as our food philosophy is typically tested and pushed with travel, gatherings, etc.
    • See this older episode of The Paleo View where we also discussed this topic
    • Stacy doesn't deal with this challenge often anymore, as the kids are older and know how to handle situations, and family and friends know the kids limitations as well
    • What Stacy's and Sarah's youngest children know, and what they are still working to teach them when making food choices when in public
  • Science with Sarah (19:50)
    • Nutrient deficiencies that are caused by high sugar intake
    • For more on this topic, see this post from Sarah
    • These deficiencies are different than nutrient displacement (choosing this over that)
    • There are 5 essential nutrients in particular that are impacted by sugar consumption (both natural and processed)
    • The direct link between chronic illnesses and nutrient deficiencies
    • High sugar intake depletes:
      • Vitamin D
      • Calcium
      • Magnesium
      • Chromium
      • Vitamin C
    • What happens within the body with each of these nutrients when we consume sugar, and the vicious cycles that these deficiencies tend to domino effect
    • The video 'Sugar: The Bitter Truth' that talks about how fructose is inflammatory
    • Sarah's message is not that we need to give up sugar forever, but that added sugar should be occasional and consumed in moderate amounts
    • Try to focus on nutrient dense sources of sugar like whole fruit and black strap molasses (see Sarah's post for more details on this sugar here)
    • Stacy has cut sugar from her diet for the time being - it is a mental reset and not a challenge
    • The snowball effect that happens with sugar intake from Halloween to New Years
    • How nutrient deficiencies impact Stacy when she consumes sugar
    • The foods and lifestyle factors that help Stacy when she is reducing her sugar intake - reminding herself why she is making the choice to not eat sugar, getting enough sleep, getting in physical activity
    • Sarah still fall's into the sugar craving cycle, but she knows how to manage the cravings with lifestyle choices
    • Being able to recognize when the cravings are present, is the big win for Sarah so that she can pull herself out by managing stress, going to be early, and getting a workout
    • Self-awareness and self-respect, how these go hand in hand when managing a craving cycle
    • These nutrient deficiencies are more common than we choose to believe
  • Questions & Answers (39:52)
    • Mandy - any suggestions on how to make a snack recommendation for our church to provide to all the kids?
    • Don - what to do when you send your child to a USDA backed school and you can't find a doctor to support the paleo diet, providing you with a note to exempt your child from receiving certain foods?
      • Switch schools if you can
      • Find a different doctor that will be more firm with the school
      • Opt out of the program and pack your own lunch
      • Talk about these choices with your child to understand how this is making them feel
      • How Matt and Stacy frame the conversation when talking with care providers
        • The behavior you see in your child when they eat x
        • How these foods impact your child's well-being
        • "What can I do to work with you to make this right"
        • Provide suggestions that put the responsibility on you
        • Work with them on transition
      • How food intolerances are diagnosed in children
      • How Sarah worked with both her daughter's doctor and the school to make it clear where the lines are
      • Sarah's suggestions on how to handle:
        • Get a letter from your kid's doctor detailing what your kid's intolerances are - which is based on what you are reporting
        • Enforcement - educate the school or take ownership on label checking
        • Respectful assertiveness to work with the school
        • Discuss all these points with the grandparents as well - it doesn't have to be confrontational
    • Laura - suggestions on how to handle son's daycare to ensure that they do not serve him dairy or wheat?
      • Understand the Balanced Diet and what food can be subbed in to meet that nutrient requirement
      • Get a note from your son's doctor
      • Discuss the suspicion of a food allergy and that you would like to put your child on an elimination diet to figure out the source of the problem
      • It starts with the respectful conversation of - I would like to work with you on this
  • Thanks all - we will be back next week!
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  • News and Views (0:56)
    • Stacy is not feeling well
    • Sarah notes the reality of getting sick even though you are following a paleo diet
    • Cole got sick with strep, and may have passed that along to Stacy, so this week's show will be a short check-in
    • If you want to receive the show early, be sure to subscribe in iTunes where it will magically appear before Friday
    • Thanksgiving is typically low key for Sarah and family, but this year they were very busy with their guests and all the fun things they did
    • Stacy's use of turkey leftovers in turkey soup, i.e. turkey added to Stacy's soup
    • Sarah's two turkeys and the insane amount of leftovers they provided
    • Matt, Stacy and family brunch for Christmas instead of hosting a big dinner, and this year for dinner they will be joining Jennifer and family for their Christmas dinner
    • How Stacy finds gluten-free restaurants in her area through Google searches, and why she also calls ahead
    • How Stacy and Sarah found their "never-eat" lists and their "enjoy occasionally" lists throughout the course of their paleo journey through elimination and reintroduction
    • Stacy and Matt received some more wonderful news on Cole from his music teacher, and were so touched to hear about his continued progress
    • Stacy's reminder to hang in there when you are new in a journey and the road feels long and difficult
    • All of Stacy's recent mom feels
    • Wishing you all a wonderful week - we will be back next week!
    • If you have a strong preference of schmoopy talk vs. rants, share your feedback in the show notes or on Stacy and Sarah's social media channels
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